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Hot Beer's avatar

The section on those who could not be vaccinated due to age and health is quite important regarding the public messaging. Everyone was pressured to get vaccinated to protect that group of people yet when stats of unvaccinated hospitalisations and deaths were announced in the media, it was always mired in the tones of "anti-vaxxers" being the the only people in that statistic.

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Andrew Madry's avatar

Yes that's an important point. The legacy media has no time for more nuanced messaging. Bundling a whole group of people as bad.

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Jo's avatar

In relation to the one dose category, my brother-in-law and sister-in-law had one dose each as 'requested' by their employer. Because they weren't followed up they managed to avoid having a second dose and chose not to.

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Andrew Madry's avatar

Thanks Jo. That's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that group in the one dose category. I guess that's the thing we have no idea of the makeup of the one dose group for example. And they are all averaged together to get their response.

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David White (Oz Dave)'s avatar

Comprehensive, thank you Dr Madry. Given the now well established seroprevalence data, I don’t know how this mob can agree to 14.4 to 19.8 million lives saved by the injections. It seems mathematically impossible. ➡️ https://thelogicofscience.com/2025/02/27/masks-and-covid-vaccines-were-huge-successes-ivermectin-and-hydroxychloroquine-were-not/?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKWoJlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvcXA388jSckNLIBmnpiu0BrwWCI2Qyif6PWVygUKvz01H86GEUJl_gBwc9U_aem_V-O7unlKv7HROlnj3RLrdA

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Andrew Madry's avatar

I just had a quick look at the article and will have to read through carefully. I guess it highlights a point that people can make numbers give any answer required by averaging in a certain way. Call the numbers you don't like "conspiracy theories". The "saved millions of lives" papers are being refuted. There seems to be some progress in counter arguments being published as time progresses.

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David White (Oz Dave)'s avatar

Thank you for looking. Yes, a simple number change can affect everything.

I’m in a debate at the moment about this article, on the Vaccination Station page in Facebook. The administrator there has been highly critical of AMPS in the past. I posted a graph on Japan’s excess deaths. The usual response is delayed medical services after lockdown. (Well, lockdowns must be more efficacious than vaccines if they include the virus.) Thanks again.

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